This is the second and final installment of the Leadership Under Fire Fireside Chat Series featuring FDNY Captain Kevin Bourke (Ret) and Lieutenant Michael Scott (Ret). In August of 2022, LUF Senior Man Jim McNamara hosted a conversation with both leaders who spent several decades serving and leading in the FDNY. This conversation affords seasoned leaders the opportunity to candidly reflect on leadership lessons and human performance principles resulting from the many wins and losses they’ve experienced. If you haven’t listened to Part I, we strongly suggest you go back and listen to it as this conversation picks up from where we left off.